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Greater Where? Fury at proposal to make St Helens part of Liverpool



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Published Date: 03 December 2008
Leading St Helens politicians have slammed fresh proposals to merge the town into part of a 'Greater Liverpool'.
Former Liverpool City Council boss Mike Storey wants to ditch the name Merseyside in favour of the new title based on his hometown.

But his idea - first raised in 2004 to near universial scorn across St Helens - hase provoked strong reactions from the town's politicians.

Coun Storey also by called on St Helens Council, among others, to stop promoting its own brand and instead fall in line with the current European Capital of Culture.

He told the City Talk breakfast show that St Helens, and other 'sub-regions of Liverpool', should be reorganised to create a Greater Liverpool region.

But the MP for St Helens North, Dave Watts, said: "You've got to look at where Mike Storey is coming from - he's a failed leader of Liverpool City Council and lacks credibility. St Helens has been a much more effectively run local authority than Liverpool for many years.

"Mike Storey would have to demonstrate that Liverpool City Council can run itself effectively. But at one point they were regarded as the worst council in Britain. Despite being the European City of Culture, the disfunctional general management of the council has been criticised on a regular basis and hardly inspires confidence."

Mr Watts added: "I know my constituents cherish their independence and would like to maintain it, unless there is an obvious advantage to them. St Helens is graded as a higher performing council than any of the others, so the likes of Liverpool have to bring themselves up to a standard where they can perform at the same level."

Local Tory leader Wally Ashcroft said it was important to work with neighbouring authorities but not to go 'cap in hand' with them.

Coun Ashcroft added: "St Helens' identity and heritage are paramount - we are far more than a satellite region of Liverpool. I believe in co-operating with neighbouring authorities but not surrendering control to them.

"Although St Helens and Liverpool are close, they are quite different. Surely we are in a better position than Mike Storey to know what needs doing in our local communities."

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  • Last Updated: 03 December 2008 8:21 AM
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Dannn,

St Helens 03/12/2008 09:31:57
This is a daft idea! Who will benefit from this: Liverpool. Certainly not St Helens. We'll see our identity and culture submerged into Liverpool's. They already habitually claim many of our finest cultural exports as their own. Creating a Greater Liverpool will only make a bad situation worse.
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Ianv,

Rainford 03/12/2008 19:07:56
It is apparent that St Helens has never seen itself as being part of Merseyside and the vast majority of people will never see themselves as being citizens of Liverpool. It is not just the name, their are vast cultural differences in things such as sport (rugby versus football) and accent. Many businesses still use the County of Lancashire as their address in preference to the reputation that the City of Liverpool has. I for one do not want my home town known as Greater Liverpool. St Helens is its own unique town and it will always be great to me.
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sotik,

Newton-Le-Willows 05/12/2008 14:01:15
Poor St Helens have to say that this is how many people of Newton feel being part of Greater St Helens. We are a seperate town but treated like a poorer satellite. Take up the offer and become Greater Liverpool like us you will see the benefits.
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ST STEPHEN,

st helens 05/12/2008 17:42:17
Story's right about one thing. Ditch Merseyside and let's get back to St Helens Lancashire!
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FIZZLE,

St Helens 05/12/2008 18:41:08
This plan should not go ahead, St Helens folk should vote on the outcome and also there should be a box to vote for St Helens, Lancashire. I know what i would tick and I have a good idea what at least 80% of St Helens people would tick. St Helens, Lancashire is the future, Let us make it happen.
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Bryan Caffyn,

Mazarron, Spain 06/12/2008 09:06:29
what a crack-pot idea, the guy obviously has nothing better to do, we all know who would be the beneficiaries of this stunt, and it would not be the folk of St Helens.
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Marko, Lancs born & bred ,

St. Helens, LANCASHIRE 06/12/2008 12:37:37
Yet another attempt to get Liverpool out of the financial mess it's in by draining the accounts of well run councils such as ours, Sefton etc.

We already subsidise the debt of the Mersey Tunnels and will continue to do so till approx 2040, just by being in this "Membership" of county councils, 5 in total, that form Merseyside, god help us if we were to become part of "Greater Liverpool"

The "County Coucil of Merseyside" was abolished in 1986 ish by M. Thatcher therefore technically Merseyside does not exist apart from police and fire services.

Lobby the MP's in this town to put Lancashire on the official paperwork they use, tell all your family and friends not to use merseyside but use Lancashire, promote St. Helens as a Lancashire town NOT a sub district of scouseland, Wigan do it, you don't see Wigan and Greater Manchester on addressess it's Lancs.

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ivern,

Prescot 09/12/2008 14:30:04
The people of Prescot should unite and get the name changed back to Prescot Lancashire. Councilor story should go and wash his mouth out with soap for saying that about St Helens.
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Baldrick69,

SAINT HELENS, LANCS 11/12/2008 07:43:50
The present people at St Helens Reporter may not be aware that the St Helens Reporter was founded in 1859, as part of South Lancashire. If the St Helens Reporter WAS against the notion of a Greater Liverpool (other than a focus of tedious emails or comments) then it should create a true petition against it (including FULL-PAGE advertising), maybe a "cut-out" in their next edition that people can hand in to the town hall (No name and address required in this age of lost info)
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Baldrick69,

SAINT HELENS, LANCS 11/12/2008 07:54:32
Come on St Helens Reporter! - Pre-empt the Greater Liverpool argument by starting a campaign for St Helens to be part of Lancashire again. SHOW SOME BALLS. Stop being a mediocre little rag.
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